Curse

Kale Ironfist · Oct 11, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

They changed it to a universal (from region-based) stock back in 2005 IIRC

IslandHermet · Oct 11, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Look at it like this
100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL.

500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL

any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back

thunderai · Oct 11, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

Look at it like this
100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL.

500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL

any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back

I have got to be the poorest person playing the game, I swear. The only time I actually increase the amount of money in my account is when I use all 10 toons to open treasures in elona. Doing that increases my money and wisdom title; however, its pianfully like farming and is not enjoyable. I dislike trading with people as it is terriblt inconvient and I would rather play the game then play trade wars (although I do enjoy my TW2002 server).

malko050987 · Oct 11, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33

I find that simply working on my Vanquisher or Guardian title will supply me 5k or so per area. Those plats go into cap sigs for my second Elite Skill Hunter title. I never manage to hoard cash, since I keep seeing "WTS [insert name of interesting item here]" and I can't help myself >.>

Linksys · Oct 11, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50

I did hero FFF(fast faction farming) and used the faction to get Urgoz scrolls. I sold the scrolls to the scroll trader and got 750g for each one. So for every 25 hero FFF runs, which gets 10k kurzick faction, I got 3.75k plus another 7.5k(trading 10k faction for 10 scrolls). Runs take about a minute plus there's the portal loading between, so I'd say about 11.25k every 35 minutes. I did this over and over again. The price the scroll traders paid for Urgoz scrolls went down steadily. Now you only get 100g per scroll. But I did a lotta Hero FFF at the right time and built a good income.

After buying Destroyer Cores and getting the Destroyer Gauntlets I still have 770 something K in my storage. Highest I reached was 888k, then got the Cores, Sup Vigor rune(i put sup vigor runes on my gloves), and other stuff. I'm trying to keep the amount of gold I have now consistent. I don't do Hero FFF much anymore because it's repetitive. It still pays good gold but the same amount gets repetitive and it feels like making minimum wage or something. 3.75k and anywhere from 1k to 1.4k more from Amber Chunks(Urgoz scrolls only yield you 100g now). I already get enough of that kind of thinking with the Mcjob(not at McDonalds but the type of job I have) I have in real life so I'm not having much fun doing FFF anymore.

I now find myself doing ss/lb runs with PUG groups now for fun, money, and unid gold items even though the rate of income increase is less and I have the max titles already. But at least I'm killing stuff. I do Snowman cave runs too and now I've been doing Glint's Challenge. The Glint one is not too hard with the right group and I find it easy to sell Cloth Of The Brotherhoods for 3k each.

I think the ninja type mask you get for trading 250 Superb Charr Carvings is the last armor related item I'd want to get. That, the doubt rep points thing this weekend, and hopefully there will be another Halloween event. Then I'll try to take it easy until Wintersday...

Well then there's the bonus missions we get in November. So there is new material coming to GW afterall.

Mohnzh · Oct 11, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

I concur with malko concerning vanquishing. 5k per area sounds about right, more if you get a lockpick or tome drop. I blow all my money on lockpicks, though. I probably would have more money if I didn't, but every once in a while I get the elite tome which gets me another 6-8k. Perfect or near perfect weapons I store until I can put the best mods on, then keep an eye open in Kamadan while buying keys. I can usually make one or two sells every third or fourth trip. Did really well last night, selling all my normal tomes and all but one elite, plus lining up a buyer for a weapon in storage. The night before, stood there for thirthy minutes for nada. Nevertheless, three days ago I could only afford to have 4 lockpicks in my inventory. Yesterday I finished the day with 26 and money in the bank. BTW, I don't get to play more than a couple of hours a day.

the_jos · Oct 11, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

Ok, some general tips here.
- Play as much as possible
- ID every white with a merchant value >= 50 before you merch and every blue/purple/gold
- Play every area in HM as much as possible
- Don't spend gold on things you need
- Play several professions and have them support each other.
Mostly swapping dropped decent weapons to other characters and drops for the Prophecies collectors armor.

When done right, you have a increasing amount of gold each day.

Next step:
- Vanquishing (with some humans to speed things up)
The things above have taken me from 100K to 500K in a couple of months.

Next:
- Farming (teamed or solo)
This is how my guildies get their FoW and rare req9 weapons.

After that, powertrading for the real huge amounts of gold.

Or get lucky and receive a good minipet or rare gold weapon.

Mohnzh · Oct 11, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

Jos, quick question. Why do you ID whites? Is it because you salvage everything cheaper than 50g?

Malice Black · Oct 11, 2007, 06:04 PM // 18:04

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

Look at it like this
100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL.

500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL

any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back

Thats a load of shit. Making a mill is easy if you know how, since you don't know how you're in no position to call every millionaire an e-bayer.

Ctb · Oct 11, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10

You people with your vanquishing must be lucky. I've never made more than 2.5k on a run in HM and it takes so long to do some areas that the plat/hour ratio is usually far worse than what I can do in GWEN.

Malice Black · Oct 11, 2007, 06:14 PM // 18:14

I generally make 2-5k, depends on if I pick up all my drops or not.

Mohnzh · Oct 11, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

Ctb, you may be right. Personally, I never had much luck in EotN, but I've been vanquishing areas that have minotaurs and nearly every single one either drops a tusk or 120g. Adds up very quick when there are more than 50 minotaurs plus nearly 100 other monsters. A quick run would be to go HM and just kill the minotaurs around Ice Tooth Cave. That should be pretty good plat/hr, especially if you can go with a smaller than 6-man team.

Griff Mon · Oct 11, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Another thing you can do is look at the prices of materials and farm for those. For some reason Scales and Plant Fibers went up in price quite a bit for a while. Keep an eye on the market price of common and rare crafting materials, find out where they drop and farm there.

Ctb · Oct 11, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

I'll throw in there that I don't normally take humans with me in HM, just heroes and henches. If all goes well, it usually doesn't take too long, but if Claude is in the Crystal Desert, and he chooses to run away from a Sand Drake that's on him because he decided to cast Blood Ritual on someone inside the mob's aggro, thus drawing attention to himself, and then Claude stupidly aggros two different groups of Jade Scarab that promptly touch the whole team to death and DP everyone... well then it takes awhile.

Stupid Claude.

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Originally Posted by Mohnzh

Personally, I never had much luck in EotN

I don't generally get very high quality drops, but if I'm looking for a good, low-intensity run I just do Irontoe's lair. Take about 15 minutes with the dialog and I usually make about 1-2k including the 250g from Kilroy and the 100g ale drop at the end. Plus it helps me stack up on non-class runes like Vitae and Radiant that I can use on other characters and their heroes.

Malice Black · Oct 11, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21

Yes, Claude is ftl

Only henchies worth using are the 'upgraded' ones in EoTN

fowlero · Oct 11, 2007, 08:53 PM // 20:53

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Originally Posted by IslandHermet

any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back

Thats rubbish IMO, but as you say, its your opinion. I myself have about 1.2 mil and i've never touched a gold seller, but your right i'm a gold horder lol.

I got my money when i first got into farming and running, E/Me smite runs when ecto were 9k and Droks running when they were about 4k. Got me about 500k then i accumulated the rest after HM with tomes and the like until drop rates fell off the board.

IMO Ecto Farming and Droks running are still pretty good ways of making money and arent all that hard to start out in, i prefer using the E/Me Terra tank build myself.

If you got GWEN get doing some dungeons with your guildies, its not even close to a fast way of making money but it'll build up over time, its fun as hell and builds up on those "grind" titles.

Good luck with it!

the_jos · Oct 11, 2007, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Jos, quick question. Why do you ID whites? Is it because you salvage everything cheaper than 50g?

No, because many whites above 50g do have a value above 50 after ID.
For example, one white armor that dropped had about 50g value, after ID it was 104. I have seen slightly higher values in the past. Average seems to be between 60 and 80g.
When you ID, the value will never be less than the value.
So you waste 3g max (I think) on each ID.
In the end, ID-in nets gold.
I set my breakpoint on 50g, since I play HM most of the time (un-IDed) drops there are always around that value anyway.
So HM drops always get ID and NM only when above 50g.
On lower valued drops the additional profit seems less.
It could well be that it's worth ID-in above 45 or even 40, but I never tried that.

The same is true for an un-IDed max gold.
Those are around 50g, but after ID might be worth between 200 and 500 gold.

Whirlwind · Oct 11, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Honestly just find a good area and farm.... once you can buy a high end item cheap, power trade as was said above. Its time consuming but not too difficult.

Also its not even slightly hard to get up to 100k just killing things and selling your lewts.. or find a green thats worth some cash and farm that. Or do slaver's groups or DoA.

Linksys · Oct 11, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Most I've had in storage is 888k. I could have easily maxed it out at 1000k and I sure as hell am not an ebay-er.

Crom The Pale · Oct 11, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

I bought my FoW back when ecto was in the 12-14K range, and I've never touched ebay for anthing.

The concept of paying real world money for some pixels I can get just by playing the game is realy stupid.

Most people have more a problem with spending than aquiring gold. If you can get your char and heros to a point where you really do not spend any money on them then your only expense is ID kits and Salvage kits.

Far to many people spend their cash on dyes, ale, runes they use once then replace or equiping heros that they never use. And lets not forget all the weapons people buy, they start with the low end 1-20K blue/purple just to get the skin they like then when they have saved up enough they spend 20-100K just to get what they already have in gold and maybe bost a hp mod from 29 to 30 or drops a req from 10 to 9.

Oct 11, 2007, 02:50 PM // 14:50	#25
Linksys Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006	I did hero FFF(fast faction farming) and used the faction to get Urgoz scrolls. I sold the scrolls to the scroll trader and got 750g for each one. So for every 25 hero FFF runs, which gets 10k kurzick faction, I got 3.75k plus another 7.5k(trading 10k faction for 10 scrolls). Runs take about a minute plus there's the portal loading between, so I'd say about 11.25k every 35 minutes. I did this over and over again. The price the scroll traders paid for Urgoz scrolls went down steadily. Now you only get 100g per scroll. But I did a lotta Hero FFF at the right time and built a good income. After buying Destroyer Cores and getting the Destroyer Gauntlets I still have 770 something K in my storage. Highest I reached was 888k, then got the Cores, Sup Vigor rune(i put sup vigor runes on my gloves), and other stuff. I'm trying to keep the amount of gold I have now consistent. I don't do Hero FFF much anymore because it's repetitive. It still pays good gold but the same amount gets repetitive and it feels like making minimum wage or something. 3.75k and anywhere from 1k to 1.4k more from Amber Chunks(Urgoz scrolls only yield you 100g now). I already get enough of that kind of thinking with the Mcjob(not at McDonalds but the type of job I have) I have in real life so I'm not having much fun doing FFF anymore. I now find myself doing ss/lb runs with PUG groups now for fun, money, and unid gold items even though the rate of income increase is less and I have the max titles already. But at least I'm killing stuff. I do Snowman cave runs too and now I've been doing Glint's Challenge. The Glint one is not too hard with the right group and I find it easy to sell Cloth Of The Brotherhoods for 3k each. I think the ninja type mask you get for trading 250 Superb Charr Carvings is the last armor related item I'd want to get. That, the doubt rep points thing this weekend, and hopefully there will be another Halloween event. Then I'll try to take it easy until Wintersday... Well then there's the bonus missions we get in November. So there is new material coming to GW afterall. Last edited by Linksys; Oct 11, 2007 at 02:59 PM // 14:59..

Oct 11, 2007, 06:14 PM // 18:14	#31
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	I generally make 2-5k, depends on if I pick up all my drops or not. __________________ Old Skool '05

Oct 11, 2007, 06:21 PM // 18:21	#35
Malice Black Site Legend Join Date: Oct 2005	Yes, Claude is ftl Only henchies worth using are the 'upgraded' ones in EoTN __________________ Old Skool '05

Oct 11, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51	#21
Kale Ironfist Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Guild: Venatio Illuminata [VEIL] Profession: W/	They changed it to a universal (from region-based) stock back in 2005 IIRC

Oct 11, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03	#22
IslandHermet Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2007	Look at it like this 100k-500k in storage at one time= farming most people get around 500k than buy what their looking for, not putting everyone in same boat as me but I see no point in hording mass gold I reach about 300k midrange and than blow it all on something LOL I have a problem with money burning a hole in my pockets AKA storage LoL. 500k-1mil is for OCD People who can not part with the money LOL any more than 1mil+ is EBAY IMHO because if your good at farming than you dont need to horde all the money because you know you can spend 2 hours and get your $ back

Oct 11, 2007, 01:33 PM // 13:33	#24
malko050987 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arad, Romania Guild: The Arctic Marauders [TAM] - now recruiting! Profession: R/	I find that simply working on my Vanquisher or Guardian title will supply me 5k or so per area. Those plats go into cap sigs for my second Elite Skill Hunter title. I never manage to hoard cash, since I keep seeing "WTS [insert name of interesting item here]" and I can't help myself >.>

Oct 11, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21	#26
Mohnzh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld... Guild: [KCOR] Profession: Mo/	I concur with malko concerning vanquishing. 5k per area sounds about right, more if you get a lockpick or tome drop. I blow all my money on lockpicks, though. I probably would have more money if I didn't, but every once in a while I get the elite tome which gets me another 6-8k. Perfect or near perfect weapons I store until I can put the best mods on, then keep an eye open in Kamadan while buying keys. I can usually make one or two sells every third or fourth trip. Did really well last night, selling all my normal tomes and all but one elite, plus lining up a buyer for a weapon in storage. The night before, stood there for thirthy minutes for nada. Nevertheless, three days ago I could only afford to have 4 lockpicks in my inventory. Yesterday I finished the day with 26 and money in the bank. BTW, I don't get to play more than a couple of hours a day.

Oct 11, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42	#27
the_jos Forge Runner Join Date: Jun 2006 Guild: Hard Mode Legion [HML] Profession: N/	Ok, some general tips here. - Play as much as possible - ID every white with a merchant value >= 50 before you merch and every blue/purple/gold - Play every area in HM as much as possible - Don't spend gold on things you need - Play several professions and have them support each other. Mostly swapping dropped decent weapons to other characters and drops for the Prophecies collectors armor. When done right, you have a increasing amount of gold each day. Next step: - Vanquishing (with some humans to speed things up) The things above have taken me from 100K to 500K in a couple of months. Next: - Farming (teamed or solo) This is how my guildies get their FoW and rare req9 weapons. After that, powertrading for the real huge amounts of gold. Or get lucky and receive a good minipet or rare gold weapon.

Oct 11, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00	#28
Mohnzh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld... Guild: [KCOR] Profession: Mo/	Jos, quick question. Why do you ID whites? Is it because you salvage everything cheaper than 50g?

Oct 11, 2007, 06:10 PM // 18:10	#30
Ctb Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: W/	You people with your vanquishing must be lucky. I've never made more than 2.5k on a run in HM and it takes so long to do some areas that the plat/hour ratio is usually far worse than what I can do in GWEN.

Oct 11, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15	#32
Mohnzh Krytan Explorer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Might find me roaming around doing missions in hard mode...or maybe I'm lost in the Underworld... Guild: [KCOR] Profession: Mo/	Ctb, you may be right. Personally, I never had much luck in EotN, but I've been vanquishing areas that have minotaurs and nearly every single one either drops a tusk or 120g. Adds up very quick when there are more than 50 minotaurs plus nearly 100 other monsters. A quick run would be to go HM and just kill the minotaurs around Ice Tooth Cave. That should be pretty good plat/hr, especially if you can go with a smaller than 6-man team.

Oct 11, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19	#33
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	Another thing you can do is look at the prices of materials and farm for those. For some reason Scales and Plant Fibers went up in price quite a bit for a while. Keep an eye on the market price of common and rare crafting materials, find out where they drop and farm there.

Oct 11, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53	#38
Whirlwind Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2007 Guild: Wolven Empire Profession: D/	Honestly just find a good area and farm.... once you can buy a high end item cheap, power trade as was said above. Its time consuming but not too difficult. Also its not even slightly hard to get up to 100k just killing things and selling your lewts.. or find a green thats worth some cash and farm that. Or do slaver's groups or DoA.

Oct 11, 2007, 11:06 PM // 23:06	#39
Linksys Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006	Most I've had in storage is 888k. I could have easily maxed it out at 1000k and I sure as hell am not an ebay-er.

Oct 11, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42	#40
Crom The Pale Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Ageis Ascending Profession: W/	I bought my FoW back when ecto was in the 12-14K range, and I've never touched ebay for anthing. The concept of paying real world money for some pixels I can get just by playing the game is realy stupid. Most people have more a problem with spending than aquiring gold. If you can get your char and heros to a point where you really do not spend any money on them then your only expense is ID kits and Salvage kits. Far to many people spend their cash on dyes, ale, runes they use once then replace or equiping heros that they never use. And lets not forget all the weapons people buy, they start with the low end 1-20K blue/purple just to get the skin they like then when they have saved up enough they spend 20-100K just to get what they already have in gold and maybe bost a hp mod from 29 to 30 or drops a req from 10 to 9.